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Hi everybodyI’m building a OO gauge model of Fenny Compton and Clifford Sidings over here in Belgium.Quite a strange idea but so be it…In view of this I plan to transform a RTR Beatie Well Tank into SMJR N° 5 the 2-4-0T and use some etchings for the…Continue
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In all parts of the country the "lines that might have been" would crowd each other out on the map.
Lines that turned out to be rural branch lines once enticed investors with ambitions to get to docks, ports, coalfields etc.
As for the SMJ I think there were fairly serious proposals to have a direct line from Northampton (by-passing Blisworth and crossing the LNWR main line). I suppose that may have been a good idea. On the other hand in many parts of the country lines like that which shortened distances and avoided reversals have been removed in later years.
Peter Fleming said:In all parts of the country the "lines that might have been" would crowd each other out on the map.
Lines that turned out to be rural branch lines once enticed investors with ambitions to get to docks, ports, coalfields etc.
As for the SMJ I think there were fairly serious proposals to have a direct line from Northampton (by-passing Blisworth and crossing the LNWR main line). I suppose that may have been a good idea. On the other hand in many parts of the country lines like that which shortened distances and avoided reversals have been removed in later years.
There is a web page with a sketch of the 1865 proposals:
The N&BJR did have running powers to Northampton, but they never used them. I can presume that the access charges would have been too great, and can well imagine that the LNWR would not have been happy to have trains crossing their busy main line. Had such a line been built, it would logically have connected with the Midland at St. Johns, and possibly this would have resulted in the MR buying the whole network. However, the LNWR would have tried to block it, and probably the GWR, too (as the Midland would then be in direct control of a route from Bristol docks to London.)
We shall never know!
Simon
There is a web page with a sketch of the 1865 proposals:
The N&BJR did have running powers to Northampton, but they never used them. I can presume that the access charges would have been too great, and can well imagine that the LNWR would not have been happy to have trains crossing their busy main line.
Had such a line been built, it would logically have connected with the Midland at St. Johns, and possibly this would have resulted in the MR buying the whole network. However, the LNWR would have tried to block it, and probably the GWR, too (as the Midland would then be in direct control of a route from Bristol docks to London.)
We shall never know!
Simon
The flyover (if built) would presumably have connected the SMJ to the Blisworth to Northampton LNWR line. Surely there would not have been an independent line to Northampton.
So the SMJ would be linked to the LNWR not the MR. St Johns station (MR) was a terminus and the MR and LNWR systems were totally seperate apart from a connection at Hardingstone Junction. This allowed running from St Johns to Wellingborough (to re connect with the MR).
After 1923 the connection was reversed to allow running from Bedford on to the LNWR stations (and closure of St Johns).
So prior to 1923 through running from the SMJ on to the Midland would need reversals.
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