The SMJR Great War Roll of Honour - The SMJ Society2024-03-28T20:36:12Zhttp://thesmjr.ning.com/forum/topics/the-smjr-gret-war-roll-of-honour?commentId=3138568%3AComment%3A77994&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Jim
Unfortunately this is…tag:thesmjr.ning.com,2018-12-21:3138568:Comment:804972018-12-21T16:11:32.405ZBarry Taylorhttp://thesmjr.ning.com/profile/BarryTaylor
<p>Hi Jim</p>
<p>Unfortunately this is one of the few EWJ/SMJ files at Kew that I haven't looked at yet, as I concentrated mostly on the historical development of the line. Now that the book is complete, I don't have any immediate plans to go down again, but if/ when I do I will certainly have a look at it.</p>
<p>Barry</p>
<p>Hi Jim</p>
<p>Unfortunately this is one of the few EWJ/SMJ files at Kew that I haven't looked at yet, as I concentrated mostly on the historical development of the line. Now that the book is complete, I don't have any immediate plans to go down again, but if/ when I do I will certainly have a look at it.</p>
<p>Barry</p> Barry,
i posted on this threa…tag:thesmjr.ning.com,2018-12-21:3138568:Comment:803972018-12-21T11:54:41.613ZJim Brownhttp://thesmjr.ning.com/profile/JimBrown
<p>Barry,</p>
<p>i posted on this thread recently but received no replies. I am planning a trip to Kew to investigate these papers but wondered if you could save me a trip. I am after more info on TF Brown whose name appears on the plaque at Stratford station. Please can you help.</p>
<p>regards</p>
<p>Jim Brown<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Barry Taylor said:…</cite></p>
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<p>Barry,</p>
<p>i posted on this thread recently but received no replies. I am planning a trip to Kew to investigate these papers but wondered if you could save me a trip. I am after more info on TF Brown whose name appears on the plaque at Stratford station. Please can you help.</p>
<p>regards</p>
<p>Jim Brown<br/> <br/> <cite>Barry Taylor said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.smj.me/forum/topics/the-smjr-gret-war-roll-of-honour#3138568Comment40375"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>David W might be interested to know that there is a file at the Public Record Office Kew under ref 'RAIL 674/11' which purports to contains EWJR /SMJR staff records 1873 to 1923. I haven't seen this one yet during my visits down there, so cannot be sure just what is in it, but it might provide a good starting point in his search for his relative.</p>
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ive just read your p…tag:thesmjr.ning.com,2018-11-23:3138568:Comment:798732018-11-23T11:36:04.774ZJim Brownhttp://thesmjr.ning.com/profile/JimBrown
<p>David, </p>
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<p>ive just read your posts from 2012 regarding your family member who worked for the SJMR before WW1. My grandfather (Thomas Frederick Brown) worked for SJMR up to 1916 before joining the Royal Engineers and is mentioned on the plaque on Stratford Station that is discussed on this forum. I realise John Jennings has passed away in the intervening period but I wondered if you had had any luck with John regarding your relative or perhaps with the staff records supposedly…</p>
<p>David, </p>
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<p>ive just read your posts from 2012 regarding your family member who worked for the SJMR before WW1. My grandfather (Thomas Frederick Brown) worked for SJMR up to 1916 before joining the Royal Engineers and is mentioned on the plaque on Stratford Station that is discussed on this forum. I realise John Jennings has passed away in the intervening period but I wondered if you had had any luck with John regarding your relative or perhaps with the staff records supposedly held at Kew. </p>
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<p>Regards</p>
<p>jim Brown<br/> <br/> <cite>David Walker said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.smj.me/forum/topics/the-smjr-gret-war-roll-of-honour#3138568Comment40931"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Barry - that is most thoughtful of you. I have taken note of that.<br/></p>
<p>Regards. David W.</p>
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</blockquote> tag:thesmjr.ning.com,2017-12-15:3138568:Comment:779942017-12-15T18:40:04.882ZSimon Stevenshttp://thesmjr.ning.com/profile/SimonStevens
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1490433184?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1490433184?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1490433184?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1490433184?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p> There is a copy of the roll o…tag:thesmjr.ning.com,2017-12-15:3138568:Comment:776962017-12-15T07:50:45.252ZSimon Stevenshttp://thesmjr.ning.com/profile/SimonStevens
There is a copy of the roll of honour on display in the ticket office at Stratford station.
There is a copy of the roll of honour on display in the ticket office at Stratford station. Harry Furniss also illustrate…tag:thesmjr.ning.com,2017-11-06:3138568:Comment:773952017-11-06T12:00:58.596ZNIGELhttp://thesmjr.ning.com/profile/NIGELALANFURNISS
<p>Harry Furniss also illustrated the Roll of Honour for the London & North Western Railway, dated June 1919, of which 34% of the workforce (31,742 men) served. One man G. Branson, a Clerk, from Blisworth Station (LNWR) served as a Rifleman. Having looked at the large copy of the SMJR ROLL of HONOUR at Towcester Museum, it is undated, and mainly shows illustrations, around the edges, of the buildings and monuments one could visit in Stratford, emphasising the Shakespeare connection. Also…</p>
<p>Harry Furniss also illustrated the Roll of Honour for the London & North Western Railway, dated June 1919, of which 34% of the workforce (31,742 men) served. One man G. Branson, a Clerk, from Blisworth Station (LNWR) served as a Rifleman. Having looked at the large copy of the SMJR ROLL of HONOUR at Towcester Museum, it is undated, and mainly shows illustrations, around the edges, of the buildings and monuments one could visit in Stratford, emphasising the Shakespeare connection. Also there are illustrations of a signalman, a wounded soldier, and an 0-6-0 SMJ loco.</p>
<p></p> To Everyone
Many thanks for y…tag:thesmjr.ning.com,2012-08-13:3138568:Comment:407702012-08-13T21:13:06.107ZJohn Jenningshttp://thesmjr.ning.com/profile/JohnJennings
<p>To Everyone</p>
<p>Many thanks for your responses to my posting on the Roll of Honour. A number of associated matters have come to light and these replies may help. I forgot to mention the size of the glazed frame it is 3 feet by 4 feet and must weigh about 24lbs due to the thick glass.</p>
<p>To David Walker. Barry Taylor is correct regarding the entries at Kew but they are not complete. If you can give me a clue as to what William Stratford's grade and station(s) were I will trawl my…</p>
<p>To Everyone</p>
<p>Many thanks for your responses to my posting on the Roll of Honour. A number of associated matters have come to light and these replies may help. I forgot to mention the size of the glazed frame it is 3 feet by 4 feet and must weigh about 24lbs due to the thick glass.</p>
<p>To David Walker. Barry Taylor is correct regarding the entries at Kew but they are not complete. If you can give me a clue as to what William Stratford's grade and station(s) were I will trawl my records. I think he must be from the Eastern end of the line as I am very familiar with the Western end names.</p>
<p>Those of you who are interested in learning more about the men and families that worked on the line might like to read the blog on my page written by William Pettifer (with my notes). The East & West and SMJ were very much "family" lines and some of the names on the Roll of Honour feature that fact. </p>
<p>Thanks to Lloyd Penfold for pointing me to Harry Furniss. His background on "Punch" and other contemporary work solve the "mystery" of the style of illustration. Much comment was apparantly made about the buxom actresses attending the Bard of Avon. Many employees and certainly some passengers were "chapel" and I was told many years ago by long gone staff that that part of the illustration was a talking point for years. Typically one elderly occupant of the nearby British Legion club in Old Town, Stratford said the men who returned from War were pleased with it and comments like "we didn't have them in the trenches" were quoted!!</p>
<p>The Roll that George Freeston saved may have come from Blisworth but if it did there were two copies there because one clearly marked in ink copperplate on the back " Blisworth" survives in a private collection. I have always thought that the larger stations may have been issued with more than one. How many can anyone remember seeing displayed? I know of four that were still on the walls of station rooms well after closure to passengers. Of these only one got saved in pretty bad condition the others were claimed by leaking roofs or vandals. </p>
<p>The Roll was printed and produced for the Directors by Harrison of London.</p>
<p>I cannot find any evidence that NRM at York have a copy .. anyone know for sure??</p> Barry - that is most thoughtf…tag:thesmjr.ning.com,2012-08-12:3138568:Comment:409312012-08-12T17:54:36.951ZDavid Walkerhttp://thesmjr.ning.com/profile/DavidWalker
<p>Barry - that is most thoughtful of you. I have taken note of that.<br/> <br/></p>
<p>Regards. David W.</p>
<p>Barry - that is most thoughtful of you. I have taken note of that.<br/> <br/></p>
<p>Regards. David W.</p> David W might be interested t…tag:thesmjr.ning.com,2012-08-12:3138568:Comment:403752012-08-12T16:23:00.418ZBarry Taylorhttp://thesmjr.ning.com/profile/BarryTaylor
<p>David W might be interested to know that there is a file at the Public Record Office Kew under ref 'RAIL 674/11' which purports to contains EWJR /SMJR staff records 1873 to 1923. I haven't seen this one yet during my visits down there, so cannot be sure just what is in it, but it might provide a good starting point in his search for his relative.</p>
<p>David W might be interested to know that there is a file at the Public Record Office Kew under ref 'RAIL 674/11' which purports to contains EWJR /SMJR staff records 1873 to 1923. I haven't seen this one yet during my visits down there, so cannot be sure just what is in it, but it might provide a good starting point in his search for his relative.</p> Thanks from me to Andy, to Jo…tag:thesmjr.ning.com,2012-08-11:3138568:Comment:403722012-08-11T19:45:43.412ZTony Newmanhttp://thesmjr.ning.com/xn/detail/u_14hv6ehif9n9b
<p>Thanks from me to Andy, to John Jennings and to everyone who posts rare stuff like this. History and they who created it are so soon forgotten, and knowledge of things past quickly disappears into a dark chasm of forgetfulness.</p>
<p>There are those personal historical mysteries too. An antecedent on mine who fell in the Great War, and who had been born on the Isle of Portland in Dorset, and had lived and worked there (as a schoolteacher), has his name and details engraved on the war…</p>
<p>Thanks from me to Andy, to John Jennings and to everyone who posts rare stuff like this. History and they who created it are so soon forgotten, and knowledge of things past quickly disappears into a dark chasm of forgetfulness.</p>
<p>There are those personal historical mysteries too. An antecedent on mine who fell in the Great War, and who had been born on the Isle of Portland in Dorset, and had lived and worked there (as a schoolteacher), has his name and details engraved on the war memorial at Ashtead, Surrey. Nobody knows why.</p>
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